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Man Likes to Circumscribe God by Experience

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Man Likes to Circumscribe God by Experience

     When we fellowship about the subject of knowing God, have you found a fact? Have you found that God now has a change in His attitude? Is God’s attitude toward mankind unchanging? Will God be patient like this forever and keep giving all His love and His mercy to man timelessly? This thing has to do with God’s substance again. Let’s come back to the question raised just now about the so-called prodigal sons’ return. After I asked that question, your answers are not very definite, which shows that you do not quite know the will of God. Once man knows that God loves him, he circumscribes God as the symbol of love: No matter what man does, no matter how man behaves, no matter how man treats God, and no matter how man disobeys, it does not matter, because God has love and God’s love is infinite and measureless; God has love, so He can bear with man; God has love, so He can have mercy on man, having mercy on man’s immaturity, on man’s ignorance, and on man’s disobedience. Is this really true? When having experienced God’s patience once or several times, some people take that as their capital of knowing God and think that God will be patient with them and have mercy on them forever. And in their whole life, they regard God’s patience with them as the standard for God’s treatment of them. Some others, after having received God’s tolerance for them once, circumscribe God as tolerance forever, which is timeless and unconditional and is even based on no principle at all. Are these views correct? Whenever you are asked about God’s substance and God’s disposition, you are at a loss. Seeing you are like this, I am really worried. You have heard much about the truth concerning God’s substance and much about the subject concerning God’s disposition, but in your mind these things, the truths of these aspects, are only theories and memories in letter. No one has ever realized or seen what God’s disposition is like in real life. So you all believe in a muddled way and believe blindly, and you even have a disdainful and disregarding attitude toward God. What does your such attitude toward God cause? It causes you to always circumscribe God. Once you know a little, you feel very content and feel that you have gained God’s everything, and then you circumscribe God and do not allow God to move. Once God does a new thing, you refuse to acknowledge that He is God. Consequently, when one day God says, “I no longer love man, I no longer have mercy on man, I no longer show any tolerance and patience to man, and I extremely loathe and detest man,” man resists such words from his heart, and some people even say, “You are no longer my God, and You are no longer the God I am to follow. Since You say such words, You are unqualified to be my God, and it is not necessary for me to follow You anymore. If You do not have mercy on me, give me love, or show me tolerance, I will not follow You any further. Only if You tolerate me timelessly and are patient with me all the time for me to see that You are love, You are patience, and You are tolerance, will I follow You and have faith to follow to the end. This is because only if You show patience and mercy to me can my disobedience and my transgression be forgiven and pardoned timelessly, and can I sin anytime and anywhere, confess my sin and be forgiven anytime and anywhere, and infuriate You anytime and anywhere, while You should not have any critical view or conclusion about me.” Although in everyone’s heart, you may not subjectively and consciously give such thoughts to this issue, yet when you treat God as a tool through which you can be forgiven of sins and as an object you can use to gain a pleasant destination, you already place the living God in opposition to yourself and treat Him as your enemy unconsciously. This is what My eyes have seen. Although you repeatedly say, “I believe in God,” “I pursue the truth,” “I want to be transformed in my disposition,” “I want to break away from the influence of darkness,” “I want to satisfy God,” “I want to obey God,” “I want to be faithful to God and perform my duty well,” … no matter how pleasant to the ear your words are, how many theories you have, and how magnificent and high-sounding they are, actually many of you, following to this day, have learned to circumscribe God with the regulations, doctrines, and theories you have grasped, and have naturally placed God in opposition to yourselves. You have grasped the letters and grasped the doctrines, but you have not truly entered into the reality of the truth, so it is very hard for you to draw near to God, know God, and understand God. This is a very sad thing!

     In a video I saw such a scene: Several sisters are holding up a book of The Word Appears in the Flesh and holding it up very high. They are raising the book in the center and above their heads. Although this was a picture, what I saw was not a picture, but rather it made Me think of the fact that in everyone’s heart, what he exalts is not God’s word but the book of God’s word. This is a very sad thing. Such doing is not exalting God at all, because you do not know God. Even in a very obvious and very small matter, you have notions within. When I asked you and when I am serious with you, you gave answers based on imagination and guesswork, and some even asked in reply with a doubting tone. From this, I know more clearly in My heart that what you believe in is not the true God. After you have read God’s word for so many years, you again circumscribe God with God’s word, God’s work, and more doctrines. And you never try to know about God and ponder God’s will, and never try to know such issues as what God’s attitude toward man actually is, what God’s heart thinks, what God is sorrowful for, what God is angry for, why God detests and rejects man, and so on. More people think that God is always silent, because God is only watching man’s various manifestations, with no attitude or opinion. Some people even think that God is silent because God approves tacitly, that God is silent because God is waiting, or that God is silent because God has no attitude and because God’s attitudes have all been told in the book and have all been expressed to man, and there is no need to tell man repeatedly and from time to time. Though God is silent, God has His attitude, His viewpoint, and His required standard for man. Even though man does not try to know Him or seek Him, His attitude is very definite. As for the thing that some people who had followed God very zealously in those days forsook God and now want to come back, you do not even know what is God’s viewpoint on it and what is God’s attitude toward it. Isn’t this a very sad thing? Actually this is a very shallow thing. If you truly understand God’s heart, you should have known what attitude He has toward such people and should not have answered ambiguously. Since you do not know it, let Me tell you.

God’s Attitude Toward Those Who Ran Away from God’s Work

     In every place there are some people of this kind: After they had been certain about God’s way, they left quietly for various reasons. They left without saying good-bye and went to do what they wanted to do at their own will. Let’s not discuss for the moment why they left. Let’s first see what God’s attitude is toward such people. It is very definite! From the very moment they left, in God’s eyes, their life of believing in God was over. It was not they who put an end to it, but God who put an end to it for them. Their leaving God meant that they rejected God already and did not want God anymore, and meant that they no longer accepted God’s salvation for them. Since they no longer wanted God, could God still want them? Moreover, when they had such an attitude and such a thought and were determined to leave God, they already provoked God’s disposition, even though they did not point at God and yell abuse in a towering rage, even though they did not have any excessive or wicked behavior, and even though they thought to themselves, “If one day I have enough fun outside or when I still need God, I will come back; or when God calls me, I will come back,” or they said, “When I get hurt outside, or when I see the outside world is too dark and too evil and I do not want to go with the current, I will come back to God.” Even though they planned in their hearts they would come back some day, and even though they left themselves a way out, they did not know that no matter what they thought and what they planned, it was only their own wishful thinking. Their biggest mistake was that they did not find out what God’s heart felt when they wanted to leave. From the very moment they were determined to leave God, God gave them up completely, and God already decided their outcome in His heart. What is their outcome? Such people are classified as mice and will perish together with them. So, man often sees such a thing: After a person has rejected God, he, however, goes unpunished. God has His principles in doing things. Certain things man can see; certain things God only decides in His heart, so man cannot see the results of these things. What man’s eyes see does not amount to the side of reality, but the side man has not seen is precisely the real thought and decision in God’s heart.

Those Who Ran Away from God’s Work Are Ones Who Have Forsaken the True Way

     So, why can God give such people so severe a punishment? Why does God have such great wrath toward them? We should first know that God’s disposition is majesty and wrath. He is not a sheep for man to slaughter at will, much less a puppet for man to manipulate at will, nor is He air for man to breathe in and out. If you truly believe in God’s existence, you should have a heart of fearing God, and you should know that God’s substance is not to be infuriated. This “infuriating” may result from a word, or a thought, or an evil behavior, or a very mild behavior, a behavior that is acceptable according to man’s view and man’s morality and ethics, or a doctrine, a theory. However, once you infuriate God, you will have no more opportunity, and your last day will come. This is a very terrible thing! If you do not know that God is not to be offended, you cannot possibly dread God, and you may often offend God; if you do not know how to fear God, you cannot possibly fear God, and you will not know how to set about walking in God’s ways—fearing God and shunning evil. Once you have a realization in your heart and can realize that God is not to be offended, you will know what to do to fear God and shun evil.

     As for entering into walking in the way of fearing God and shunning evil, you do not have to know many truths, experience many trials, or experience many disciplines before you can achieve it; rather it depends on what the substance of your heart is toward God and what attitude you have toward God in your heart. Man’s substance and man’s subjective attitude are very important and crucial. As for those people who rejected and left God, their disdainful attitude toward God and their heart of hating the truth have provoked God’s disposition. So in God’s eyes, they can never be forgiven. They had known the existence of God, heard the news that God has come, and even experienced the new work God does. They did not leave in the condition of being deceived, nor in the state of being hazy, much less in the condition of being compelled; rather it was in the condition of being conscious and clearheaded that they voluntarily chose to leave God. Their leaving is not going astray or being lost, so in God’s eyes, they are not the lambs lost from the flock, much less the prodigal sons who lost their way. They left without fear of anything; such a condition, such a state, provoked God’s disposition, and it was this “provoking” that brought them an irremediable outcome. Isn’t such an outcome very terrible? Therefore, if man does not know God, he can offend God! This is in no way a small thing! If one does not take God’s attitude seriously and even thinks that God is looking forward to his return, because he is the little lost lamb of God and God is still waiting for him to change his mind, then he is not far from the day of being punished. Not only will he not be received by God, but he provokes God’s disposition the second time. This is a more terrible thing! His disdainful attitude toward God has offended God’s administrative decrees, so will God receive him? In God’s heart the principle for this thing is that if one, even after being certain of the true way, rejects and leaves God in the condition of being conscious and clearheaded, under such a background God will close the way for him to be saved, and from then on the gate to the kingdom will be shut to him. When he comes back again to knock at the door, God will not open it for him again, and he will be shut out forever. Some of you may have read the story about Moses in the Bible. After God anointed and appointed Moses, due to Moses’ various manifestations and for various reasons, the two hundred and fifty leaders showed their refusal to submit. Whom did they refuse to submit to? It was not Moses that they refused to submit to; they refused to submit to God’s arrangement, refusing to submit to the thing God did. They said such a word as this: “You take too much on you, seeing all the congregation are holy, every one of them, and the LORD is among them….” Is this word very grievous in man’s eyes? No! At least its literal meaning is not grievous. Legally speaking, it is nothing serious, because on the surface it contains no opposing word or phrase, much less does it have the meaning of blasphemy. It is only an ordinary word. However, why could such a word provoke God into so great anger? This was because their word was not directed at a man but at God, and the disposition and attitude they expressed through their word precisely provoked God’s disposition and offended God’s disposition that is not to be offended. In the end they had the outcome as known by us. As for those who have forsaken God, what is their viewpoint? What is their attitude? The reason why their viewpoint and attitude can bring upon themselves such punishment of God is that they chose to betray God when having clearly known He is God. Therefore, they are completely deprived of the opportunity of being saved. Just as the Bible says, “For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sins.” Now you are very clear about this thing, aren’t you?

From A Continuation of The Word Appears in the Flesh—The Way to Know God I

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https://www.holyspiritspeaks.org/how-to-know-gods-disposition-and-the-result-god-works-to-achieve

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